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Martin Fowler & Kent Beck: Frameworks for reinventing software, again and again
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- Apr 14, 2026
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With Martin Fowler and Kent Beck. At The Pragmatic Summit: www.pragmaticsummit.com. See a writeup of the talk: https://newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com/p/cycles-of-disruption-in-the-tech Watch the session with Q&A also included: https://newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com/p/the-pragmatic-summit-recordings 0:00 Intro 2:11 Ideas from Agile/TDD/refactoring that stuck 9:04 Historical analogies: microprocessor, internet, OO, Agile 16:44 Why good practices still fail 21:21 How the AI shift is different 25:50 Engineers as managers of multiple agents 27:11 One-pizza vs two-pizza teams 29:07 Developer experience and agent experience