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NATO's Terrible Mistake: Proxy-War Turns Against Europe | Anatol Lieven
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- Aug 17, 2026
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Summary
NATO's European Forever War is now turning decisively against the EU. The elites that have been cheering the carnage on for the longest time are starting to catch up with the actual battle field reality.Anatol Lieven, director of the Eurasia Program at the Quincy Institute, discusses why Ukraine’s NATO question and territorial deadlock make a lasting settlement hard. He examines US weapons limits, the Iran war, changes in US and Israeli politics, Morocco’s role in the Ceuta migration crisis, and why China is avoiding a move on Taiwan. He also argues that Western foreign-policy institutions repeatedly fail to learn from past wars.Links:Anatol Lieven at Responsible Statecraft: https://responsiblestatecraft.org/aut... Neutrality Studies substack: https://pascallottaz.substack.com Merch: https://neutralitystudies.com/shop Donation: https://neutralitystudies.com/donate Timestamps: 00:00 Ukraine, NATO, and peace talks 07:46 Can a Ukraine deal hold? 16:51 US weapons limits and Iran 21:15 Trump’s Iran strategy 25:13 Israel and US political shifts 28:31 Ceuta migration crisis 33:40 China, Taiwan, and Western failures