Episode

Why Ending Roe Wasn’t Enough for the Pro-Life Movement

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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

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Feb 5, 2026

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3708

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Summary

Nearly four years after Roe v. Wade was overturned, where is the pro-life movement setting its sights? That’s what I wanted to know from the activist Lila Rose. We spoke last month in front of a live audience at the Catholic University of America. We debated whether her cause was prepared for the fall of Roe and whether abortion still matters at all to the right.