# Why Ending Roe Wasn’t Enough for the Pro-Life Movement

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Podcast: [Interesting Times with Ross Douthat](https://stenobird.com/podcast/interesting-times-with-ross-douthat-440457)
Published: 2026-02-05T10:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/05/opinion/why-defeating-roe-wasnt-enough-for-the-pro-life-movement.html
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## Resource

Nearly four years after Roe v. Wade was overturned, where is the pro-life movement setting its sights? That’s what I wanted to know from the activist Lila Rose. We spoke last month in front of a live audience at the Catholic University of America. We debated whether her cause was prepared for the fall of Roe and whether abortion still matters at all to the right.

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