Episode

Jamelle Bouie and I Debate Trump’s Failing Grade

Podcast
Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Published
Jan 25, 2026
Duration seconds
2405
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Summary

President Trump’s aggressive return to the White House has been disruptive in ways that will continue to reshape American — and global — governance and politics for decades. At a live event with the Library Foundation of Los Angeles, I joined my colleague Jamelle Bouie and our boss, the Opinion editor, Kathleen Kingsbury, to break down the first year of Trump 2.0. This conversation originally aired as an episode of “The Opinions.”