Episode

Anthropic's Chief on A.I.: ‘We Don’t Know if the Models Are Conscious’

Podcast: Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Published: Feb 12, 2026
Duration seconds: 3742
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Summary

A.I. is evolving fast, and humanity is falling behind. Dario Amodei, the chief executive of Anthropic, has warned about the potential benefits — and real dangers — linked to the speed of that progress. As one of the lords of this technology, is he on the side of the human race?