Episode

‘A Hard Time We Had of It’

Podcast: Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Published: Dec 24, 2025
Duration seconds: 243
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Summary

Merry Christmas and happy holidays! This week Ross Douthat shares one of his favorite poems for the occasion, “The Journey of the Magi,” written by T.S. Eliot, to reflect on a year one might call “interesting.” See you next year!