Episode

A Bitcoin Evangelist Tries to Convert Me

Podcast: Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Published: Apr 23, 2026
Duration seconds: 3958
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Summary

One question has haunted my investment strategy for years: What is cryptocurrency actually for? It feels as though the vibes are constantly shifting — one day it’s the dollar’s successor, and the next it’s little more than a meme. My guest this week is bitcoin evangelist Anthony Pompliano, the chief executive of ProCap Financial. We get into whether crypto is a bet against the American empire and whether its volatility is actually a strength.