Episode
Leon Panetta & Mark Esper
- Podcast
- Ceasefire
- Published
- Mar 13, 2026
- Duration seconds
- 3748
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Summary
A discussion with former Obama Defense Secretary Leon Panetta & former Trump Defense Secretary Mark Esper, plus a bipartisan conversation with former Gov. Deval Patrick (D-MA) & former Gov. Bill Haslam (R-TN). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices