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221. Ryan Rogers: Gas Station Opioids, Faith-Based Recovery, and Honest Therapy
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- Jul 6, 2026
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Summary
My friend Ryan Rogers returns to the podcast for our third conversation. He's an addictions counselor in Texas, host of Reality Therapy , and now the author of two books — The Woke Mind and his new release, The Carpenter's Recovery , a Christian guide to 12-step recovery. We start with what's being called "gas station heroin": a chemical called 7-OH, extracted from kratom, that's roughly thirteen times stronger than morphine and sold legally next to the 5-Hour Energy drinks at the checkout counter. Ryan walks me through how legal loopholes have produced a generation of accidental addicts, including church kids and high-conscientiousness adults who'd never touch illegal drugs. I share my own "little old lady" story — how my elderly mom was given a 10mg THC gummy by her stoner massage therapist — as a warning to anyone navigating this new landscape with vulnerable elders. From there we go into cannabis-induced psychosis, cannabis use hyperemesis disorder, fentanyl displacing heroin, and what's actually working in addiction treatment. Ryan explains why he wrote a Christian recovery book and why naming Jesus in AA meetings still gets people shut down. We close on the state of the therapy field: woke ideology, AI psychosis, the rise of niche experts over licensed therapists, and why "live your truth, king" is the worst possible response to a client telling you they're about to relapse. Follow Reality Therapy podcast | Follow Ryan on X @ryanmcrogers [00:00:00] Start [00:02:06] Gas Station Heroin: What Is 7-OH? [00:05:55] Kava, Feel Free, and Designer Drugs [00:11:25] How 7-OH Hits the Opioid System [00:14:30] The Little Old Lady THC Gummy Story [00:25:30] Methadone vs. Suboxone for Detox [00:35:56] The Carpenter's Recovery: A Christian Approach [00:40:32] Why AA Pushes Back…