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Beyond Training: How to Prove L&D Isn’t Just Overhead: Dr. Keith Keating

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Workplace Stories by RedThread Research
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Jul 2, 2025
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Summary

Many organizations see learning and development (L&D) as a cost center rather than a strategic driver of value, but what if that mindset is costing them far more than they realize? In this episode, Dr. Keith Keating explains why we’re moving from a “knowledge economy” to a “value economy,” where it’s not what we know but what we do with it that matters. He shares practical ways for L&D teams to make their impact visible, bridging the disconnect with CFOs and earning a seat at the strategy table. Through his own journey from high-school dropout to Chief Learning Officer, Keith challenges learning leaders to see themselves as problem-solvers and value creators. He offers frameworks like the Value Creation Compass to help map L&D’s role in business growth, resilience, and customer value, showing that when L&D stays hidden, organizations lose far more than training budgets: they lose adaptability and talent. You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in... (00:00) Intro. (00:22) Keith’s background and why his book matters. (04:58) The shift to a value economy for L&D. (08:50) Keith’s personal journey from dropout to leader. (15:10) Economic, personal, and societal value explained. (19:30) Four key disconnects between L&D and CFOs. (25:40) The Value Creation Compass model. (39:20) Risks if L&D’s value stays hidden. Resources & People Mentioned https://www.bdo.ca/en-ca/ Hidden Value by Dr. Keith Keating Connect with Dr. Keith Keating Connect with Dr. Keith Keating on LinkedIn Connect With Red Thread Research Website: Red Thread Research On LinkedIn On Facebook On Twitter Subscribe to WORKPLACE STORIES