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Leading Change from the Middle: Adriano Pianesi on Progress, Power, and Participation

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What’s Possible w. Ilene Schaffer
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May 21, 2026
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Summary

What does it really take to navigate organizational change, especially when you’re leading from the middle? In this episode of What’s Possible, Ilene Schaffer sits down with executive coach and professor Adriano Pianesi, who has worked with more than 2,500 leaders across sectors. Adriano shares why change so often feels exhausting, political, and stuck, and why middle managers are far more essential to successful change than they are often given credit for. Together, he and Ilene talk a...