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Episode 62 - The Radical Joy of Letting Currency Flow

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We Are Out of Office
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May 22, 2026
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Summary

In this week’s episode of We Are Out of Office , Veteran Television Executive Producer Nikki T and Bestselling Author Jayne Allen spiral—in the best possible way—through conversations about creativity, money, nervous system regulation, Michael Jackson, Black ambition, romantic fantasy novels, AI language lovers, and what it means to keep imagining bigger futures for ourselves even while the world feels increasingly strange. It’s an episode about vibration. About energy. About the stories we inherit and the ones we choose to write ourselves into. From Black women preparing to purchase billion-dollar sports franchises to the emotional realities behind scarcity mindsets, Nikki and Jayne unpack the emotional architecture beneath the lives we build—and the ones we dream about next. I See You, Girl Nikki’s “I See You Girl” goes to Kwanza Jones , a Black woman whose résumé feels almost fictional in scope. Potential future MLB owner. Princeton donor. Billboard-charting singer. Lawyer. Philanthropist. Entrepreneur. One half of a billion-dollar power partnership. And somehow still grounded in purpose and impact. What struck Nikki most wasn’t simply the scale of Kwanza’s accomplishments—it was the way she is being publicly framed not as an accessory to wealth, but as an active architect of empire-building alongside her husband, billionaire investor José E. Feliciano. The conversation becomes larger than one woman. It becomes about the power of Black women being seen as full participants in influence, ownership, leadership, and legacy. Jayne, meanwhile, finds herself captivated by a different kind of woman entirely: a woman who doesn’t yet exist. Inspired by the NBA playoffs, Jayne begins imagining the story of the first female head coach in the NBA—a woman navigating locker room…