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Voice of Experience - Storage Safety Hazards, Response, and the Evolution of the Grid with Josh Dinaburg, CSA Group

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Utility Safety Podcast by Incident Prevention Magazine
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Dec 1, 2025
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Summary

As the grid transitions to green energy, battery energy storage systems (BESS) are popping up everywhere—from utility substations to residential neighborhoods. But what happens when lithium-ion technology fails? In this episode of The Voice of Experience, host Danny Raines and Fire Test Specialist Josh Dinaburg from the CSA Group dive deep into the reality of battery fire safety. Josh brings nearly 20 years of lab experience to explain why the ”let it burn” strategy is often the safest choice for first responders and the environment. We dispel common myths about toxic runoff, explore how AI is revolutionizing failure detection, and discuss the rigorous testing standards keeping our communities safe. If you work in utilities, safety operations, or fire protection, this is the essential guide to understanding the risks and remedies of modern energy storage. Key Takeaways The ”Let It Burn” Strategy is Intentional: Contrary to public perception, the safest tactic for large-scale battery fires is often isolation rather than active suppression. Attempting to extinguish the fire can leave ”stranded energy” in damaged cells, creating a ”ticking time bomb” for secondary events, whereas letting it consume itself renders the waste safer for disposal. Manufacturing Quality is Improving Rapidly: While cell counts in storage facilities are increasing, the failure rate has dropped significantly—now estimated in the ”one out of millions” range rather than hundreds. Environmental Impact is Manageable: Extensive testing indicates that water and air quality impacts from these fires are generally comparable to standard structure fires. Runoff has not been demonstrated to cause immediate ”forever chemical” threats to groundwater, provided the site is managed correctly. AI is the Future of…