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Episode 25: Valeisha Butterfield On Audacity, Dating After Divorce & Why Humility Is Dead
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- Two Personal with Joy Taylor
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- Jun 25, 2026
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Summary
Joy Taylor sits down with Valeisha Butterfield, Obama administration alum, Recording Academy's first-ever Chief Diversity & Inclusion Officer, and founder of Seed Media. Get ready for a raw, wide-ranging conversation on audacity, the death of humility, entrepreneurship, dating post-divorce (with a hiking story that will have you screaming), sisterhood, and what it means to be a Black woman in this moment. 0:00 — Intro: Joy introduces Valeisha and teases the topics 1:02 — Audacity: Redefining the word and why mediocre men have it in abundance 3:02 — The case against humility: "I am not humble before other humans" 4:40 — Working loud: Taking credit for your work and not letting anyone swoop it 6:50 — Playing the game strategically in corporate and political spaces 7:44 — Valeisha's mom moment: The audacity to take your full maternity leave 9:29 — The girlboss myth and why the conversation is exhausting 11:34 — How scared are we? Living in unprecedented times 12:20 — Why Valeisha isn't afraid: People move where culture moves 13:44 — Is culture in a good place? Music, art, film, and who we're platforming 17:07 — Empowering creators: Pick up the camera, don't wait for the green light 19:27 — Young people, their time, and learning to live with less 23:18 — Valeisha's shift from corporate to entrepreneurship 26:57 — The one thing Joy and Valeisha cannot stand: Wasted time 27:33 — Dating after divorce: The lover girl problem 29:38 — Love bombing — why it's a red flag AND why it feels so good 33:14 — Meeting your kids: The story of the restaurant ambush 39:00 — Men in their midlife era, online illusions, and the gender war myth 44:00 — Dating apps &…