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We Finally Built “PayPal” for Pakistan | Moiz Jangda | TBT | 512

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Thought Behind Things
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Apr 23, 2026
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Summary

Checkout PocketMoney: https://www.pocketmoney.globalThe financial reset is happening, and the way we move money is changing forever. For years, Pakistani freelancers, remote workers, and businesses have struggled with capital controls, blocked accounts on Payoneer, and the nightmare of spending USD on basic global services like Facebook ads or software subscriptions.In this episode of Thought Behind Things, I sit down with Moiz Jangda, Founder and CEO of Pocket Money. We discuss how they are building the rails for a "PayPal-like" experience for Pakistan, allowing users to legally hold US-domiciled dollar accounts, spend globally with a Visa debit card without extreme FX markups, and bypass the legacy friction of international remittance.We also dive into the macroeconomic impact of capital controls, the reality of the hawala market, integrating stablecoins (USDC/USDT) into the background of consumer finance, and how the State Bank of Pakistan is viewing the digitization of the economy.TBT’s Instagram: https://instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil TBT’s Facebook: https://facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings TBT Clips: https://youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips Muzamil's Instagram: https://instagram.com/muzamilhasan Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/