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#856: Jim Collins — What to Make of a Life and How to Maximize Your Return on Luck
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- The Tim Ferriss Show
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- Mar 5, 2026
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Jim Collins has published multiple international bestsellers that have sold in total more than eleven million copies worldwide, including the perennial favorite Good to Great . His new book is What to Make of a Life: Cliffs, Fog, Fire, and the Self-Knowledge Imperative . This episode is brought to you by: AG1 all-in-one nutritional supplement: DrinkAG1.com/Tim Cresset family office services for CEOs, founders, and entrepreneurs: CressetCapital.com/Tim Momentous Fiber+ 3-in-1 formula with soluble fiber, insoluble fiber, and Solnul® resistant starch: LiveMomentous.com/Tim Gusto simple and easy payroll, HR, and benefits platform used by 400,000+ businesses : Gusto.com/Tim Timestamps: [00:00:00] Start. [00:02:43] More energy at 68 than 37: Jim’s mysteriously expanding battery. [00:04:57] Two mornings a day. [00:08:24] How Marcelo Garcia avoids the “simmering six.” [00:10:24] The portable coffee ritual. [00:12:44] Side passions of high performers: Disco dancing, the occult, and Sunday school. [00:18:20] Genesis of “ What to Make of a Life ” and the sage down the hall: John W. Gardner. [00:20:51] Joanne’s IRONMAN triumph: winning by 90 seconds on a shattered hamstring — then the cliff. [00:26:01] Cliff events, matched pairs, and the bigger question that swallowed the smaller one. [00:31:35] The fog-clarity inversion: clear on life, foggy on projects. [00:34:56] Fog happens to everyone — don’t freak out about it. [00:40:38] Jim’s wife’s one-word review of life with him. [00:47:29] When the fire went from red molten rage to a green-yellow warming glow. [00:54:18] Encodings vs. strengths: The window frame metaphor and John Glenn’s click moment. [01:01:49] My encoding candidates. [01:08:07] 70 points on trust:&nbs…