Episode

429: ‘Weird Turtle Fake Out’, With Matthew Panzarino

Podcast: The Talk Show With John Gruber
Published: Aug 26, 2025
Duration seconds: 8024
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Summary

Matthew Panzarino returns to the show. Topics include 007 logo creator Joe Caroff’s death at 103, Google’s weird “Made by Google” event hosted by Jimmy Fallon, the UK supposedly dropping its demand for an iCloud encryption backdoor, and Apple’s workaround for the Apple Watch blood oxygen sensor patent stalemate.