Episode

427: ‘The Shift-2 Crowd’, With Jason Snell

Podcast: The Talk Show With John Gruber
Published: Jul 25, 2025
Duration seconds: 7935
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Summary

Jason Snell returns to the show to talk about the early PC platform rivalries of the 1980s, iOS 26 leaks (and Apple suing YouTuber Jon Prosser), the various Apple OS 26 public betas and the state of Liquid Glass, and more. (Where by “more” I mean a little baseball and keyboard nerdery.)