Episode

A Public School Principal Stopped Following the Rules. Here's What Happened.

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The OpenEd Podcast
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Apr 23, 2026
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3011
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Summary

Kenneth Grover spent two decades as a public school principal proving that the rules governing American education - grade levels, bell schedules, age-based pacing - aren't always laws. They were habits. This conversation covers how a real mastery-based public high school actually ran, day by day, and what it took to build one from the inside. Read the full blog post: https://opened.co/blog/what-mastery-based-learning-looks-like-in-a-real-public-school Kenneth Grover LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/kennethogrover OnFire Learning (OpenEd Marketplace): https://opened.co/marketplace?searchInput=fire