Episode
A Path to Profitability in an Industry Built on Fear?
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- The No Film School Podcast
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- Apr 17, 2026
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- 4207
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Summary
GG Hawkins speaks with Kino co-founders Brit MacRae and Daril Fannin about the broken handoff between post-production and release, and how insecure screeners, fragmented feedback workflows, and fear-based distribution norms undermine independent film. They break down Kino’s evolution from an interactive streaming idea into a secure post-to-delivery platform, explain how they built a film fund around de-risked sub-$2 million features, and use Undertone as a case study for aligning budgets, creative ambition, and profitability. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guests Brit MacRae and Daril Fannin discuss... Why the current post-production and release pipeline is still built around insecure links, scattered notes, and outdated habits How piracy, leaks, and weak screener security can hurt filmmakers, investors, and distribution momentum The original idea behind Kino and how it pivoted from interactive streaming to a B2B platform for secure screeners, dailies, cuts, approvals, focus groups, and final delivery Why discoverability is one of the biggest problems in independent film, and why indie projects are competing with TikTok and other forms of passive entertainment How fear-based thinking shapes decisions around marketing, exposure, festivals, and distribution What “LVOD” means to Kino and how the company tried to create a window that adds marketing value without cannibalizing TVOD Why MacRae and Fannin believe filmmakers need to think like business builders, not just artists, when raising money How Kino structured its film fund around contained, creatively aligned stories with budgets under $2 million and meaningful de-risking through incentives and exchange rates Why Undertone made sense as a fund project: one location, a contained story, and a productio…