Episode

Trump Fatigue Meets Its Match

Podcast: The Grill Room
Published: Jul 7, 2026
Duration seconds: 2020
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Summary

The New York Times’ Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan join Dylan for an inside look at their new book, ‘Regime Change: Inside the Imperial Presidency of Donald Trump,’ which moved an extraordinary 300,000 copies in its first week. They shed light on their reporting process, why the book has cut through despite widespread Trump fatigue in media, where their reporting partnership goes from here, and more.