Episode
Trump wants to be ‘THE LAST PRESIDENT’ - Maggie Haberman
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- The Fourcast
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- Jun 24, 2026
- Duration seconds
- 1140
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Summary
Maggie Haberman has spent years covering Donald Trump - from his first presidential campaign to his return to the White House. Now, in her new book Regime Change, written with Jonathan Swan, she examines how Trump has wielded power in his second term: his relationship with loyalty, his desire to shape history, and the people around him who help drive his decisions. On this episode of The Fourcast, Krishnan Guru-Murthy speaks to Maggie Haberman about Trump’s ambition to be remembered as one of the most powerful leaders in history, whether he is considering a third term, and what his presidency reveals about his character. Donald Trump has frequently dismissed Haberman for writing false stories about him, which she rejects. Is Trump changing the presidency - or trying to make the presidency about himself?