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When It All Goes to Hell_ Insights from a CIA Counterterrorism Operator with Jeff Banman
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- THE EMBC NETWORK
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- Jun 21, 2026
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- 2687
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When It All Goes to Hell_ Insights from a CIA Counterterrorism Operator with Jeff Banman In this enlightening conversation, Michael Ostrolenk talks with Jeff Banman, author of "When It All Goes to Hell: Thoughts on Chaos and Crisis from a CIA Counterterrorism Operator." Banman shares his unique insights drawn from his diverse career experiences as a firefighter, Army Ranger, and CIA operative. He discusses his approach to human performance in high-stress situations, the importance of understanding our intuitive guidance systems, and how to prepare for chaos and crisis in everyday life. Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction and background of Jeff Banman 05:30 - Jeff's career path and development of interest in human performance 09:00 - Discussion on finding purpose in every moment and reflection 14:00 - Introduction to the Three C's: Comfort, Confidence, and Creativity 20:00 - Explanation of the SAFE mechanism 27:00 - Discussion of the Intuitive Guidance System 34:00 - The importance of trust in oneself and how it gets eroded 36:45 - The role of the rational mind in crisis situations 41:30 - Closing thoughts and where to find Jeff's book Resources: Book: "When It All Goes to Hell: Thoughts on Chaos and Crisis from a CIA Counterterrorism Operator" by Jeff Banman and Drew Williams Social Media: @AnchorDad on all platforms Amazon: Book available for purchase Instagram