Episode

The Ghost Name in Golf Course Architecture

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The Bag Drop: Untold Stories in Golf
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Apr 28, 2026
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Summary

Joe Hancock may be the most-mentioned, least-seen name in modern golf course architecture. In this episode of The Bag Drop: Untold Stories in Golf, host Matt Considine and cohost Dr. Kevin Moore sit down with Joe (@joeytheknows on Twitter), golf course shaper, designer, superintendent, operator, and longtime DeVries Design collaborator. Joe has one of those golf lives that seem to run beneath the surface of the game and the grounds we play on. He grew up around golf in Michigan, worked as a superintendent, owned and operated a family golf course, helped build The Mines with Mike DeVries, and has since shaped and collaborated on projects with some of the most respected architects in the modern game. The conversation dives into: Joe’s friendship and working relationship with Mike DeVries, from childhood summers on Crystal Lake to shaping The Mines in Grand Rapids Why being a former superintendent and golf course operator changed the way Joe thinks about clients, budgets, maintenance, and the people who actually play the course The quiet art of shaping, including how a shaper learns when to execute, when to suggest, and when to let the land do most of the work Broomsedge, Candy Root, and the design decisions that create charm, confusion, restraint, half-par holes, and shots that stay with you after the round The case for more accessible, affordable, interesting public golf β€” and why the future of the game needs more than expensive destination architecture Connect with our guest 🚜 Joe Hancock β€” https://devriesdesigns.com/joe-hancock β€” 🐦 X/Twitter: https://x.com/JoeytheKnows Follow The Bag Drop πŸ“Έ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebagdrop 🐦 X/Twitter: https://x.com/thebagdropgolf πŸ“Ί YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheBagDropGolf Listen to The Bag Drop 🎧 Apple: https:/…