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S7|G15 Level Up Your Creative Business with Paul Pape
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- That Will Nevr Work Podcast
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- May 13, 2026
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- 1600
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Summary
What if the reason your creative business isn't growing has nothing to do with your talent — and everything to do with the story you've been forgetting to tell? In this episode of That Will Nevr Work, host Maurice sits down with Paul "Santa for Nerds" Pape — 20-year master artist, TEDx speaker, author of The Creative Player's Handbook to Business, and founder of Gamify Business — for one of the most energizing and perspective-shifting conversations we've ever had on this show. Paul has spent two decades designing custom collectibles and props for Disney, Universal, Nickelodeon, and The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon — and what he learned along the way is that clients were never buying his creations. They were buying him. Now he's on a mission to help every artist, maker, and creative entrepreneur understand the same truth — and build a business around it. In this episode, you'll discover: Why clients buy the creator, not the creation — and how to immediately start leading with the story that makes you irreplaceable The truth about the "starving artist" myth and the specific lies it tells that keep creative entrepreneurs broke and undervalued Why traditional business frameworks fail creative thinkers — and what the Gamify Business framework does instead The two questions every creative must answer to unlock their most magnetic personal brand How a "character sheet" becomes the most powerful sales and marketing tool a creative entrepreneur can build Why failure is a feature, not a bug — and how to make it part of your adventure instead of proof that you should quit The bigger mission Paul is building — and what creative entrepreneurship looks like when it works If you are a creative entrepreneur who has been pouring everything into your craft and wondering why the bu…