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953: Beyond “Agent Washing”: AI Systems That Actually Deliver ROI, with Dell’s Global CTO John Roese
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- Dec 30, 2025
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Summary
Dell Technologies’ John Roese talks to Jon Krohn about the phenomenon of “agent-washing”, his contribution to Dell’s incredible revenue boost in 2025, and why “knowledge layers” will be crucial to future tech. Hear also John’s predictions for where AI is going to lead us in 2026, from better, clearer governance, data management methods and definitions for agentic AI, to systems that keep AI tools and our data running and secure with the help of “AI factories” and “sovereign AI”. This episode is brought to you by MongoDB and by Y Carrot. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/953 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (01:31) John Roese’s predictions for AI in 2026 (11:28) How John increased ROI at Dell Technologies (18:59) John’s predictions for AI in 2026 (40:13) How Dell’s clients are using AI factories