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Risk in Deep Space: Culture, Appetite, and Real GRC in Practice with Michael Erlandsson Jensen
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- Risk is Our Business
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- Apr 27, 2026
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- 1147
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Summary
In this episode of Risk Is Our Business, Captain Michael Rasmussen sits down with Michael Erlandsson Jensen at April Coffee in Copenhagen, a busy café whose ambient hum feels oddly right for a conversation grounded in real-world experience. Michael opens by tracing his path through global risk management, and from there the two find their way into something that doesn't get discussed enough: how differently risk culture actually plays out depending on where you are in the world. The Danish and broader European approach tends to weave risk into everyday business dialogue—collaborative, embedded, almost organic. That's a sharp contrast to the more compliance-first environments Michael has worked in across parts of the Middle East and the U.S., where risk can feel like something done to the business rather than with it. That tension shapes the heart of the conversation. For Michael, good risk management isn't about control or enforcement, it's about facilitation. Helping the business understand its own risks, take ownership of them, and actually talk about them. Bad risk management, by contrast, is disconnected from decisions that matter, buried in process, and more interested in checking boxes than in being useful. They also dig into risk appetite a concept that's often treated as a document to file away and forget. Michael pushes back on that, reframing it as something that should reflect how an organization actually behaves, not just what it says on paper. The real work, he argues, is closing the gap between strategy, risk, and what happens on the ground day to day. It's a grounded, cross-cultural take on GRC and a reminder that the real work of risk doesn't live in frameworks. It lives in conversations.