Episode
Build Windmills, Not Walls: Michael Gerstenzang
- Podcast
- Original Jurisdiction
- Published
- Feb 18, 2026
- Duration seconds
- 2834
- Processing state
not_requested
Actions
POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/original-jurisdiction-5705421/episodes/build-windmills-not-walls-michael-gerstenzang/transcription-requests
Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode.GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/original-jurisdiction-5705421/build-windmills-not-walls-michael-gerstenzang.md
Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource.
Summary
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit davidlat.substack.com Last month, Michael Gerstenzang concluded a nine-year run as managing partner of Cleary Gottlieb, one of the world’s leading law firms. During his tenure, he guided the firm through the Covid-19 pandemic, geopolitical turbulence, and the early stages of the AI transformation—an area where Cleary has emerged as an industry leader, reflected in its development of ClearyX and acquisition of Springbok AI. In this episode, Michael shares insights on firm leadership, the increasingly active lateral market, and how AI is already transforming—and will continue to transform—the hiring, training, and day-to-day work of lawyers. I learned a tremendous amount from our conversation, and I’m grateful to Michael for his thoughtful perspectives. Show Notes: * Michael A. Gerstenzang bio , Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton LLP * Thoughts on Managing the AI Transformation , by Michael A. Gerstenzang for Cleary Gottlieb * Cleary Makes Generative AI Play With Springbok Legal Tech Buy , by Roy Strom for Bloomberg Law Prefer reading to listening? For paid subscribers, a transcript of the entire episode appears below. Sponsored by: NexFirm helps Biglaw attorneys become founding partners. To learn more about how NexFirm can help you launch your firm, call 212-292-1000 or email [email protected].