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Ep 31. Inclusive design

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May 21, 2026
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Summary

On the podcast today we have a conversation all about inclusive design. In this episode, we break down what inclusive design is, why it matters, its historical evolution, core principles, and how website owners and designers can apply it to their own projects. We begin by discussing the fundamental nature of the web as a platform where, unlike the offline world, inclusivity can often be achieved at minimal cost simply by following standards, an opportunity the industry has too often overlooked. David shares insights from the Website Owner’s Manual, describing the “five pillars” behind building better sites, and why inclusive design sits at the top. We go on to explore how inclusive design goes beyond basic accessibility compliance, actively seeking out who might be excluded and working to remove those barriers, treating diversity as a default rather than an edge case. Nathan reflects on how the (often invisible) difficulties that people face online are less likely to be addressed due to a lack of visible cues and legal pressure. Corporate approaches from tech giants like Microsoft, Google, and Apple are discussed, along with the reality for smaller web professionals who might struggle to justify the investment. David argues that if web standards and good code are prioritised from the outset, inclusive websites don't have to create extra burdens. The conversation then turns to history, tracing the evolution from post-war “barrier-free design” to modern inclusive design, and how concepts like dignity and flexibility are at the heart of truly accessible user experiences. We try to unpack the ethical, reputational, and practical advantages for brands that embrace inclusivity, and point out that, often, what benefits people with specific access needs ends up benefiting ever…