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Whither the data? Daniel Elizondo on new clues to the whereabouts of AAWSAP data
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- Jul 6, 2026
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Summary
On this episode, I interview UAP researcher Daniel Elizondo, coauthor with the Hermetic Penetrator of the e-book Loose Threads , about the prevalence of counter-intelligence ops and agents within the UFO community. We discuss the current situation surrounding UAP disclosure, the recent revelations around Lue Elizondo’s alleged involvement in the Legacy Program, the fate of Jacques Vallee’s Capella database post AAWSAP, and much more. In particular, Elizondo points to a passage in Vallee’s Forbidden Science 7 that appears to indicate that the database was most recently in the hands of a TTSA board member. We also explore the formation of a science panel by the Trump administration with Avi Loeb as head scientist and members including Gary Nolan and Peter Skafish. Elizondo makes the point that counter-intel is an important part of sensitive programs, and that Lue’s previous experience could be a positive if he were appointed UAP czar. We also discuss the possibility that the UAP disclosure movement is primarily about technology transfer rather than public disclosure, with information being managed through carefully controlled releases. Daniel also explains how UAP data has been classified as Trans-Classified Foreign Nuclear Information (TFNI), which requires that declassification by the Secretary of Energy wait until the U.S. develops comparable technology. To access and read Loose Threads: https://omega-point.medium.com/loose-threads-af8f652ee8cb —---------------------------- Music Credits: Music: Cinematic Logo 04 by TaigaSoundProd Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/8221-cinematic-logo-04 Licensed under CC BY 4.0: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Music: Technology Calm Logo 01 by TaigaSoundProd Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/6660-technology-calm-lo…