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Episode 136: When SaaS Goes Surfing
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- MSP Chat
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- Aug 21, 2026
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- 4885
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Summary
Erick and Rich discuss Syncro’s big bet on Claude, ChatGPT, and other chatbots becoming the MSP’s RMM/PSA interface of choice plus three tips for ensuring every interaction with clients builds rather than erodes trust. Then they’re joined by David Schwartz, CEO of Pia, for an AI-native vendor’s point of view on the SaaSpocalypse, AI pricing, vibe coding, and more. And finally, one last thing: Two unbelievably bad examples of billing department idiocy. Discussed in this episode: Syncro Goes Native David Schwartz blog post Pia ChatGPT webinar Couple initially told to pay cancellation fee for cable, internet after wildfire destroys home Woman dies, comes back to life, gets parking ticket Some guests on this podcast are clients of Channel Mastered. Compensation plays no part in their appearance or the content of the discussion unless the episode they appear on is a “bonus episode” explicitly labeled as sponsored.