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Something Scary Is Happening In Biolabs - Annie Jacobsen - #1127

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Modern Wisdom
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Jul 23, 2026
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Summary

Annie Jacobsen is a journalist, investigative reporter and an author. For decades, nuclear war has been humanity’s greatest existential fear. But the next global catastrophe may not arrive with a mushroom cloud—it could begin inside a laboratory. What would a biological attack actually look like, how quickly would it spread, and could humanity survive it? Sponsors: See discounts for all the products I use and recommend: ⁠https://chriswillx.com/deals⁠ Get a Free Sample Pack of LMNT’s most popular flavours with your first purchase at https://drinklmnt.com/modernwisdom Get 160+ lab tests for just $365 and save an extra $25 at https://functionhealth.com/modernwisdom Get 10% discount on all Gymshark products at https://gym.sh/modernwisdom (use code MODERNWISDOM10) Get the brand new Whoop 5.0 and your first month for free at https://join.whoop.com/modernwisdom Get ChatGPT to explore ideas, solve problems, and learn faster at ⁠https://chatgpt.com Timestamps: (00:00) Nuclear vs Biological War: Which Is Worse? (01:08) Why No One Is Talking About Bioweapons (04:23) Is Genetic Engineering a Good Thing? (07:14) What COVID Really Taught Us (13:25) Who Created the First Biological Weapon? (21:25) What Makes the Perfect Biological Weapon? (26:44) The Soviet Bioweapons Ambition (27:50) How the Soviet Program Was Exposed (34:38) How Many Bioweapons Are Man-Made? (37:30) The Biggest Mistakes in Bioweapons History (45:04) What Happens in the First 24 Hours of a Leak? (56:02) Bacteria vs Virus: Which Is More Dangerous? (57:19) Does Dose Responsiveness Determine Survival? (59:21) Are Incubation Time and Lethality Correlated? (01:02:19) How the Soviets Created a Euphoric Plague (01:08:39) Six Days: From Outbreak to Anarchy (01:23:37) How Close COVID Came to Social Breakdown (01:36:24) Where…