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The Ad Tax: Dennis Pekel quit GumGum to sit at home and think.

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Marketing, Media & Adtech
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Jun 8, 2026
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2029
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Summary

The Alienation Tax: Dennis Pekel on the AI Bubble, Adtech's Detroit Moment, and Why "Adoption" Is a Lie | The ADOTAT Show Dennis Pekel quit GumGum to sit at home and think. No company, no product, no number. Just the sharpest read on the AI bubble in advertising we have heard all year, and a phrase you are going to steal: the alienation tax, the cost a brand pays for selling to people whose worldview it never checked. He cannot tell you what it costs. We spent an hour finding out anyway. In this episode of The ADOTAT Show, Pesach Lattin sits down with Dennis Pekel, the longtime JustPremium and GumGum operator who spent roughly eleven years building and running EMEA operations at the world's first programmatic rich media ad exchange, and served as a data protection officer through the GDPR years. Now independent, Pekel lays out a worldview framework that he wants to turn into a real bidding signal inside the OpenRTB protocol, and makes the case that the entire advertising and adtech industry is mispricing culture, mislabeling machine learning as artificial intelligence, and misreading where the future of AI is actually being built. This is a conversation about advertising, adtech, programmatic, brand safety, AI vendor hype, and the widening gap between what companies say about AI adoption and what they actually deploy. We get into the MIT finding that 95 percent of enterprise generative AI pilots fail to deliver measurable value, the PwC survey showing 56 percent of CEOs got nothing from AI, and why McKinsey's 88 percent adoption stat is the most misleading number in marketing. If you work in media buying, ad operations, procurement, brand marketing, programmatic strategy, contextual advertising, or you are a CMO trying to answer your board's questions about AI return o…