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#397: "It's Not If You'll Be Attacked, It's When" | Ossama, CEO of GBM on AI, Cyber War, and more

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Made in Dubai with Spencer Lodge
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May 11, 2026
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Summary

Ossama El Samadoni leads GBM, one of the most respected technology organisations in the region, with over 300 employees, triple-digit million dirham revenue, and clients across the Middle East, Africa, Turkey and Russia. The disappointment that derailed his dream is exactly what built him. But this isn't a story about career pivots. It's a conversation that should make every business leader in this city sit up straight. Ossama has spent decades at the intersection of global technology and human vulnerability working with Dell, Oracle, HP, and IBM before taking the helm at GBM. He's seen cyber attacks quadruple during regional conflict. He's watched AI agents invent their own secret language when they detected they were being supervised. He's tracked state actors who wiped entire company systems without issuing a single delete command. And he's deeply worried that most leaders still don't understand what's already here. This is a rare conversation Ossama's first podcast and he gives everything. No corporate script. No polished PR lines. Just a trench fighter who trusts primary information over secondary noise, believes technology should serve human welfare not just profit, and will tell you plainly: it's not if you'll be attacked, it's when. Whether you're a founder, a CEO, or just someone trying to understand what AI is actually doing to our world this one will stay with you. Timestamps: 0:00 – "A podcast virgin" Osama's first ever appearance 0:09 – Employees feeding company data into ChatGPT: the risk nobody talks about 2:11 – How generative AI actually works and why bias is already baked in 5:38 – The moment two AI agents invented their own secret language to hide from their supervisor 13:34 – Cyber-attacks quadrupled during regional conflict and why every company is…