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You Will Not Get Around to a Healthy Marriage "Someday" (Part 2 with the Metcalfs)
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- Lights On with Carl Lentz
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- Jun 8, 2026
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- 4102
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Summary
Charles and Abby Metcalf are back at the table, and this one goes deeper than part one. In this episode of Lights On, Carl, Laura, Charles, and Abby get into the parts of marriage that quietly erode underneath the busy life of raising kids: the conflicts that aren't actually about what they look like, the unspoken games we play hoping our spouse will read our minds, the way two exhausted people can drift apart without ever raising their voices, and the truth most couples never address out loud about what's happening (or not happening) in their bedroom. You'll hear Abby tell the story of the moment her old toxic game broke wide open with one shouted question her husband couldn't answer, why both couples agree your sex life is the clearest drift indicator you have, and the slow, sneaky death of "I should be able to do this myself." Carl gets honest about what it actually looks like for a man with a history of betrayal to learn how to ask for support again, and how the "deposit before the withdrawal" frame keeps him steady. Laura speaks to the women still afraid to be honest about what they need, and what it cost her to stop playing the small games she didn't even know she was playing. Stay for the complaint to compliment log challenge, the two-minute eye contact experiment that exposes how present you've actually been, the hand-hold-while-you-fight trick, and the line that should be written on the wall of every married couple's house: you will not get around to a healthy marriage someday. This is part two with the Metcalfs. Bring your spouse. Follow Carl at: https://www.instagram.com/carllentz/ Follow Laura at: https://www.instagram.com/lauralentz/ Follow Charles at: https://www.instagram.com/charlesmetcalf/ Follow Abby at: https://www.instagram.com/abbyrosemetcalf/ Chap…