Episode
Leaving Before You See What's Next (featuring Brad Gray & Brad Nelson)
- Podcast
- Life After Ministry
- Published
- Nov 25, 2025
- Duration seconds
- 2823
- Processing state
not_requested- Canonical source
- https://lifeafterministry.podbean.com/e/leaving-before-you-see-whats-next-featuring-brad-gray-brad-nelson/
Actions
POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/life-after-ministry-6573611/episodes/leaving-before-you-see-what-s-next-featuring-brad-gray-brad-nelson/transcription-requests
Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode.GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/life-after-ministry-6573611/leaving-before-you-see-what-s-next-featuring-brad-gray-brad-nelson.md
Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource.
Summary
Most pastors imagine ministry as a lifelong calling, until something shifts - slowly, painfully, or all at once. In this episode, Brad Gray and Brad Nelson share their unfiltered stories of leaving pastoral ministry, wrestling through uncertainty, and discovering the faithful presence of God in seasons where nothing made sense. Their journeys reveal how transitions can expose hidden wounds, force honest discernment, and ultimately reshape our understanding of calling. From uprooting a thriving teaching pastor role with no job on the other side, to the quiet unraveling that nearly cost a marriage, both men walk through the tension, grief, and surprising grace that comes when God invites you into a future you can’t yet see. And at the center of their healing is a rediscovery of the Lord’s Prayer - not as a childhood memory, but as a daily blueprint for partnering with God. This conversation is hope for the discouraged, a mirror for the exhausted, and a companion for anyone wondering whether there is life after ministry. There is. And it might be more expansive than you expect.