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Who's Awake? Befriending Insomnia with Internal Family Systems -- with Katie LaCelle
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- Jun 2, 2025
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Summary
What if your insomnia isn't a problem to fix, but a part of you that needs your attention? In this insightful and compassionate conversation, I’m joined by somatic IFS and leadership coach Katie LaCelle to explore the deep connection between sleeplessness and our inner system. Katie shares her personal journey with chronic insomnia and how Internal Family Systems (IFS) offered a radically different way of relating to wakefulness—one that invites curiosity, compassion, and presence. Together, we explore how insomnia can be understood through the lens of parts work, what happens when protector parts activate at night, and why asking “Who’s awake?” might be more helpful than trying to fall back asleep. Katie also offers grounded techniques and nervous system tools to support better sleep—not by overriding parts, but by listening to them. Whether you struggle with occasional restlessness or chronic insomnia, this episode offers powerful insights into how we can meet our sleepless parts with kindness—and finally begin to rest. _____________________________ We Explore:🌙 Katie’s personal experience with insomnia and burnout🧠 The “Just Ask” principle in IFS: Who’s awake? What do you need?🔦 Why certain protector parts become active at night🌀 A theory on nightmares and sleep as a consent violation for some parts⚖️ Common polarizations around sleep (e.g., “I need to sleep” vs. “I need to stay alert”)🧘 Techniques for grounding before sleep and during the day🧩 How to be with insomnia parts instead of battling them🌿 The power of observing and noticing what’s there—without trying to change it ___________________________ About Katie LaCelle:Katie LaCelle is a somatic IFS and leadership coach who helps people reconnect with their body’s wisdom and uncover the internal leaders they alre…