Episode

Where Is the Intersection of Leadership and Management?

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Fire Engineering Podcast Network
Published
Jun 21, 2026
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4312
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Summary

Hosts Todd Edwards and Anthony Rowett welcome Candace Ashby to this episode of Generation Engine. Ashby discusses her 36-year career, breaking down how standard certifications fail to train actual officers, and arguing that the push for agreeable leadership undermines necessary accountability. They discuss confronting administrative disconnects to ditching formal paperwork for honest, face-to-face discipline, challenging conventional fire service culture.