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The Psychology of The 10 Commandments| Jamie Metzl

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Finding Mastery with Dr. Michael Gervais
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Summary

What moral code do we need when our tools can reshape intelligence and biology itself? Jamie Metzl is a technology and healthcare futurist and geopolitical expert, founder and chair of OneShared.World, and a Senior Fellow at the Atlantic Council. He has served on the U.S. National Security Council and with the United Nations in Cambodia, and he is the author of Hacking Darwin , Superconvergence , and his newest book, The AI Ten Commandments . The book began as a question Jamie put to a popular AI model, asking what ten principles, drawn from all of recorded human history, would produce the most peace and human flourishing. What came back pulled from traditions he already knew and others he had never encountered. Jamie and Mike get into what it takes to be a participant in this rather than a bystander, why Jamie thinks the moment belongs to all of us rather than to a handful of technologists and billionaires, and what he would keep from the original Ten Commandments. Mike’s push is that principles on their own do not necessarily hold. Most of us sign off on them easily. What happens to them in a high stress, consequential environment is the harder question. Jamie says technology is what gets us to this conversation, and the conversation is about values. The unsexy word for the rest of it, he says, is governance, and it starts with governance of the self. Enjoy the conversation. Links & Resources Jamie Metzl’s Website: jamiemetzl.com Jamie Metzl’s Books: The AI Ten Commandments: A New Moral Code for Humanity, Superconvergence, Hacking Darwin, Eternal Sonata OneShared.World, where Jamie is founder and chair Atlantic Council, where Jamie is a Senior Fellow: atlanticcouncil.org/expert/jamie-metzl Subscribe to our Youtube Channel for more conversations at the intersectio…