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#152: Your Gut Is Always Right About Bad Hires, with Lee Anne Chevalier
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- Jun 30, 2026
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Summary
Hiring is hard, but firing is harder — especially when it's the first time you have to do it. In this episode, Stephanie sits down with Lee Anne Chevalier, owner of SerenLumi in Ithaca, New York, just hours after she performed her first-ever employee termination! Lee Anne walks through her decades in cleaning, rebuilding her business from rock bottom after moving states, and the timely story of a manipulative hire who tried to pressure her into committing unemployment fraud. 📌 What You'll Learn— Why "speed of trust" matters and how to extend it like a credit card, not a blank check— How to spot a manipulative hire before they poison your team— Why long-commute employees almost never work out long-term— How to protect your team (and your reputation) when an employee turns toxic— Why building a real brand from day one beats piecing things together— How to re-enter a market as a full brand after starting over Resources Mentioned— ZenMaid (scheduling software, SOS feature, new app beta, Stripe + Mailchimp integrations): https://get.zenmaid.com/ — The ZenMaid Mastermind Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/zenmaidmastermind — Serene Clean templates (purchased and adapted for SerenLumi): https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ — The Filthy Rich Cleaners episode with Cheryl Hajjar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9azk8CrpGE 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Stephanie's Consulting & Resources for Purchase: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://www.zenmaid.com/newsletter/