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The Walmart Indicator Just Hit 2008 Levels | Jim Paulsen on the Big Difference This Time
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- Excess Returns
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- Apr 8, 2026
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Summary
This episode of Excess Returns features Jim Paulsen breaking down the current macro environment through a series of powerful indicators, including oil, interest rates, consumer behavior, and market sentiment. The discussion explores whether today’s environment signals a slowing economy—or the early stages of a new bull market hidden beneath the surface. Subscribe to the Jim Paulsen Show on Spotify Subscribe to the Jim Paulsen Show on Apple Podcasts Jim walks through a wide range of charts and frameworks, from the Walmart vs. luxury retail signal to private credit stress, productivity trends, and policy uncertainty, offering a data-driven perspective on where markets and the economy may be headed next. Paulsen Perspectives Substack https://paulsenperspectives.substack.com Topics Covered Why the recent oil spike hasn’t impacted inflation and interest rates as expected Slowing economic growth vs. recession risk and what the Fed might do next The Walmart vs luxury retail indicator and what it signals about the economy Private credit risks and how they differ from traditional credit crises Why many indicators point to a new bull market rather than a bear The role of sentiment, volatility, and uncertainty in driving market returns Market rotation from mega-cap “new era” stocks to broader market leadership Corporate profits divergence and the opportunity in the rest of the economy Liquidity, cash levels, and positioning as potential fuel for markets Productivity trends and whether AI-driven gains are real or overstated Timestamps 00:00 Intro and current macro backdrop 01:05 Oil spike and limited impact on yields and inflation 04:45 Growth outlook and why recession may still be avoided 07:10 Fed policy and the stagflation question 10:15 Walmart vs luxury retail indicator exp…