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ControlAI's Connor Leahy on why superintelligence is ‘not a weapon, it's an adversary’

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Equity
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Sep 9, 2026
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Summary

AI companies have been talking about superintelligent AI like it's inevitable, but recent safety incidents like OpenAI's Hugging Face breach are demonstrating the potential dangers of deploying AI systems that are more capable than humans. So what happens when we can't reliably control what these systems do?  On this episode of TechCrunch's Equity podcast, Rebecca Bellan is joined by Connor Leahy, an AI researcher, entrepreneur, and now the U.S. Executive Director of nonprofit ControlAI, which is pushing for a far more radical approach to AI safety: stopping companies from developing superintelligence altogether. Leahy explains why he thinks the risks have become too great to manage through alignment and containment alone, and how what sounded far-fetched six months ago is now being backed by a wave of new legislation.  Listen to the full episode to hear more about:  His take on the Sanders-Casar “Ban Superintelligence Act,” the parallel legislation in the U.K. that Control AI advised on, and why he thinks the U.S. bill may go further than necessary.  How he views frontier AI labs less as companies simply chasing returns and more as political actors, and what that means for the trillions of dollars being poured into data center buildouts.  Why Leahy thinks the real point of no return is when AI can build better AI, creating a potentially runaway cycle of self-improvement  The case for international “trust but verify” agreements, and why Leahy thinks it isn't actually in China's interest to build superintelligence.  Subscribe to Equity on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Overcast, …