Episode
Let Them Eat Cake
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- Continuous Agitation
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- Jun 4, 2026
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- 2538
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Summary
Is usage licensing dead? Not exactly. But the business it was built for doesn't really exist anymore. Print is all but gone. Social media now accounts for 80% (!) of ad spend in the US. Clients want the C word [rhymes with shmontent] by the dump truck load and there are ten times as many people willing to shoot it. @asksternrep , a prominent photo rep with an excellent advice page, recently posted a follower’s question on her Instagram feed and the comment section got real spicy. Her advice to photographers losing bids over usage: be the best photographer you can be, and clients will pay for limited licensing. Will they though? We try to unpack what actually happened to the commercial photography market, why work-for-hire is the real threat, and why "hold the line on licensing" is good advice for 5% of photographers all of the time, a few more photographers some of the time, but never all photographers all of the time. "Telling photographers to do better is an outdated answer to a structural shift in the industry." Links: @asksternrep — Andrea Stern’s (generally) great advice resource on Instagram ASMP — American Society of Media Photographers Find us: Follow Jay on Instagram: @jayfram Follow Bill on Instagram and Threads: @sawalich Read Bill's newsletter, Art + Math: artandmath.substack.com Jay's photography: jayfram.com Bill's photography: sawalich.com Write to us: [email protected] / [email protected] Rate and review Continuous Agitation on Apple Podcasts — it actually helps.