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The Formula For Making ANYONE Care About Climate | Phil Korbel, Carbon Literacy Project
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- Climate Unf*cked
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- Mar 31, 2026
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Summary
Check out the UK's most trusted climate action platform, Ecologi at: https://tinyurl.com/kfswnxth This is a slightly different ep. The first ½ is a more traditional podcast chat. But the 2nd ½ is me putting Phil to the test by roleplaying as 4 different people: A secondary school teacher, a middle-class retiree, a young professional and a right-wing politician Phil Korbel is the co-founder of the Carbon Literacy Project, a Manchester-based charity that has trained over 153,000 people across 50 countries in climate action. Starting from a shared desk with no salary and a big idea, Phil and his co-founder Dave Coleman have built one of the most powerful climate education movements in the world - reaching everyone from security guards to IPCC scientists, wedding planners to funeral directors. We cover: Why recycling is near the bottom of the list, and what actually moves the needle The Carbon Literacy formula: how does acting on climate help you thrive in your specific role? Why polar bears are banned from Phil's training (and what that says about climate communication) The emotional structure of a carbon literacy day and why doom without agency is dangerous How 153,000 people got trained mostly through word of mouth Why professional advisors - lawyers, accountants, financial advisors - need to understand climate as a core competency The "Burt the security guard" story that perfectly captures what a culture shift actually looks like How to handle a denier in the room without letting them suck up all the oxygen What Phil says to a right-wing politician who thinks clean energy means living in caves Why anger about climate might be your most useful tool - if you channel it right —— This podcast is sponsored by Ecologi, the UK's most trusted climate action platform. They help…