Episode

Kate Bowler: Joy is surprising

Podcast: Clear+Vivid with Alan Alda
Published: Jun 23, 2026
Duration seconds: 2229
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Summary

A decade on from being diagnosed with a deadly cancer – and eight years since her first visit with Clear and Vivid – she tells of the many ways she has been taken by surprise by joy, as recounted in her new book – Joyful, Anyway