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Transforming the Church with Dr. Derwin L Gray - It's Time To Heal with Jo Hargreaves
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- Sep 10, 2026
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Summary
In this heartfelt episode of the Transforming the Church podcast, Pastor Derwin Gray sits down with faith-integrated psychotherapist Jo Hargreaves to explore the deep connections between spiritual formation, emotional healing, and neuroscience. Together, they discuss how Jesus meets us in our wounds and invites us into honest, transformative healing—body, mind, and spirit. Drawing from Scripture, personal stories, and scientific insights, the conversation challenges the “behavior management” approach to faith and instead calls listeners to bring their true selves—scars and all—before God. Key themes include the renewing of the mind (Romans 12:2), the power of God’s unbreakable love (Romans 8:38), and the importance of emotional honesty in the healing journey. Jo and Derwin unpack the four God-given steps to restoration found in Derwin’s book, “It’s Time to Heal,” emphasizing honesty with God, expecting healing to be hard, accepting the past, and living from God’s love rather than for it. Listeners are encouraged to move beyond shame, embrace vulnerability, and find hope in Christ’s own scars—discovering that healing is possible, progressive, and rooted in God’s grace. Whether you are a ministry leader, counselor, or anyone seeking to experience deeper healing, this episode offers wisdom, compassion, and practical steps to help you live from love, not for love, and become an agent of restoration in your community. PODCAST RESOURCES • More from Derwin: www.derwinlgray.com and www.transformationchurch.tc/podcast • Subscribe on Apple Podcasts • Subscribe on Spotify • Subscribe on YouTube • Subscribe on Amazon Music • The ChurchLeaders Podcast Network CONNECT WITH DERWIN • Facebook: www.facebook.com/derwinlgray • Instagram: @derwinlgray RATE, LEAVE A REVIEW, & SHARE If you’…