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Why L&D Gets Cut First in the AI Era with Dr. Nigel Paine

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Capability Edge
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Jul 10, 2026
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Summary

Guest: Nigel Paine, former CLO, organizational learning researcher, author of five books. A room full of executives is working out how AI changes their business. Real conversation, real ideas. Then the L&D person asks if they want a course built. The room stops. What we cover: Why is L&D diverging from the business? Nigel watched L&D teams celebrate cutting content development time by 60% while the rest of the organization was drowning. Nobody outside L&D cared. What should that person have said instead of "shall I build a course"? Nigel gives the exact words. It starts with the CEO's business, not with learning. How do you refuse a training request? He calls it field work. Go talk to people. If they say no, go anyway. What is actually blocking L&D? Not budget. Nigel wrote a whole book about learning culture and found he could have written one sentence: no trust, no learning culture. What's on the other side of the bridge? From disengagement to engagement. From inward facing to outward facing. Once you're on the agenda, you start being part of the agenda. I came out of this energized and a little furious. You will too. Meet your host, Candice Mitchell Candice Mitchell is a Talent Development Strategist, CEO of Talent Collective, and USA Today bestselling author of Choose You: For the People Who Refuse to Disappear. With nearly two decades of experience building and leading capability functions inside global and Fortune 500 organizations, she founded Talent Collective, a premium capability-building firm for L&D, HR, Change, and People leaders in high-growth companies. Your host, Candice Mitchell, can be found online at: Website: https://talentcollective.org/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/candicemitchelltc/ Instagram: https://www.instagram…