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Digging Into the Word: Franklin, Paine, the Founding Covenant & Sonship with Brad Cummings │ BardsFM
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- Jul 12, 2026
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Episode 4179 │ July 12, 2026 The founders didn't cite chapter and verse on the Declaration because everyone already knew it. Their signatures were the closing prayer. Their amen. WHAT THIS EPISODE COVERS Scott Kesterson and Brad Cummings open with what two secular historians — men who spent fifty years becoming subject matter experts in the Revolutionary period — identified the two most understated truths of the founding: the transformed character of the leaders who inspired everyone around them to follow, and the people themselves who, having once tasted the dignity of self-governance, were never going to give it back. The conversation moves through Benjamin Franklin as the most misrepresented figure of the era — not a secular deist but a man who believed more deeply in the God-given potential of humanity than almost anyone of his generation — and Thomas Paine as the street-level genius Franklin saw a diamond in, whose Quaker roots and Adams' Calvinist convictions produced a theological clash that was never about party but about getting it right for the people. The episode closes on Revelation 21, the unnamed boy's lunch in John 6, and the question Brad presses on every listener: do you know who you are, what God has placed in you, and why He has allowed you to be on the earth at this exact moment in history — because the baton handed by the founders is now in your hands, and you have a leg of this race to run. KEY QUESTIONS ADDRESSED What did secular historians — non-believers who spent decades as subject matter experts in the Revolutionary period — identify as the two most understated truths of the American founding, and why does their answer from outside the faith tradition carry particular weight? Why does Brad argue that Benjamin Franklin was not a secular deist…