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NCMLE Bonus: Sustainable Leadership, Perseverance, and Motivation with Katie Powell, Ronnel Blackmon, & Charles Williams

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Aspire to Lead
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Apr 3, 2026
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Summary

What does it take to truly engage a middle schooler, build a classroom where every student feels like they belong, and sustain yourself as a leader for the long haul? In this second bonus episode recorded live at the NCMLE Moving the Middle Forward Conference in Charlotte, North Carolina, Joshua Stamper brings you three more energizing conversations straight from the conference floor, sponsored by New Horizons Global. First, Joshua sits down with educator, speaker, and author Katie Powell to talk about her two books, Boredom Busters and Frustration Busters , and the powerful message from her conference sessions on why lack of motivation is not a behavior problem. Katie unpacks the psychology behind task avoidance and work resistance, shares why empowering students with agency and classroom jobs can transform the culture of a room, and explains how teachers can build engagement strategies that honor both student needs and their own frustration in the process. Next, Joshua connects with the high energy Ronell Blackman, speaker, MC, and community builder, who talks about his work on the power of presence, why showing up fully wherever you are is the foundation for growth, consistency, and confidence, and how small steps forward change everything in education and in life. Rounding out the episode is a returning Aspire to Lead guest, Illinois school leader, author, and speaker Charles Williams, who shares his framework for sustainable leadership built around clarity, capacity, and care, and his evolving work on belonging and what it actually means to create the conditions for every student and staff member to feel genuinely included. All three guests are returning to NCMLE because of one reason: community. And this episode captures exactly why. If you want professional deve…